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Hi folks,

I mentioned that I was taking a break from a Strat baseball project for the winter to start playing my hockey games.  Seajaw asked if I'd be posting the results of my hockey projects, so here I am.

For the first project, I'm doing a tournament of 138 NHL and WHA teams, using Dave Koch Sports' Action PC Hockey game.  It's a ton of fun, as hockey is my first love.  This is a computer-only game.  It takes about 30 minutes to play a game, and I'm coaching all teams.

For the first round, it's a play-in round to determine the bottom 10 teams, so that there are 128 teams left after this round.  To select the teams, these are my criteria:

-Stanley Cup winners

-Stanley Cup finalists

-regular season champs (most points during regular season)

-So there could be up to 3 teams from each season, minimum 2.  I own every season for the game, which is most seasons from 54-55 to the present.  Plus a couple of WHA seasons, 72-73 and 73-74.

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Results of Play-In Round


(for game results, away team listed first)
 
8586 Montreal (119) 3, 9091 Minnesota (138) 2 (aka Gainey the player vs. Gainey the coach)
Minnesota 2, Montreal 5
Minnesota 2, Montreal 4
Montreal 0, Minnesota 1
Montreal 0, Minnesota 1 (Montreal was shut-out both times in Minnesota!)
Minnesota 0, Montreal 2
 
9192 Pittsburgh (120) 3, 5859 Toronto (137) 2
Toronto 2, Pittsburgh 3, OT (Recchi scored winner)
Toronto 4, Pittsburgh 3
Pittsburgh 4, Toronto 1
Pittsburgh 1, Toronto 5
Toronto 1, Pittsburgh 3
 
9192 Chicago (121) 3, 6061 Detroit (136) 1
Detroit 1, Chicago 3
Detroit 2, Chicago 5
Chicago 3, Detroit 7
Chicago 3, Detroit 2
 
8081 Minnesota (122) 3, 8182 Vancouver (135) 1
Vancouver 0, Minnesota 2
Vancouver 4, Minnesota 1
Minnesota 1, Vancouver 0
Minnesota 3, Vancouver 2, OT
 
6465 Chicago (123) 3, 5758 Boston (134) 2
Boston 2, Chicago 3
Boston 1, Chicago 2
Chicago 2, Boston 3, OT
Chicago 1, Boston 2
Boston 0, Chicago 3 (Bos had only 9 shots!)
 
0910 Philadelphia (124) 3, 6768 St. Louis (133) 0
St. Louis 2, Philadelphia 3
St. Louis 2, Philadelphia 4
Philadelphia 4, St. Louis 3, OT (Philly blew 3-0 lead)
 
6667 Toronto (125) 3, 9394 Vancouver (132) 2
Vancouver 0, Toronto 2
Vancouver 4, Toronto 1
Toronto 3, Vancouver 1
Toronto 1, Vancouver 3
Vancouver 0, Toronto 1
 
6061 Chicago (126) 3, 6364 Detroit (131) 2
Detroit 1, Chicago 5
Detroit 2, Chicago 3
Chicago 1, Detroit 2
Chicago 0, Detroit 1
Detroit 0, Chicago 1, OT (Detroit outshot Chicago 29-15)
 
6162 Chicago (127) 3, 7374 Chicago Cougars (130) 1
Cougars 0, Hawks 3
Cougars 0, Hawks 1
Hawks 2, Cougars 3 (Cougars outshot them 30-4 in first 2 periods!)
Hawks 3, Cougars 2, OT
 
6566 Detroit (128) 3, 9293 LA (129) 1
LA 1, Detroit 4
LA 3, Detroit 6
Detroit 1, LA 2, OT
Detroit 4, LA 2


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ROUND 2 (128 teams)

 
7677 Montreal (1) vs. 6566 Detroit (128)
7778 Montreal (2) vs. 6162 Chicago (127)
1213 Chicago (3) vs. 6061 Chicago (126)
9596 Detroit (4) vs. 6667 Toronto (125)
7576 Montreal (5) vs. 0910 Philadelphia (124)
7071 Boston (6) vs. 6465 Chicago (123)
7273 Montreal (7) vs. 8081 Minnesota (122)
7172 Boston (8) vs. 9192 Chicago (121)
0506 Detroit (9) vs. 9192 Pittsburgh (120)
8384 Edmonton (10) vs. 8586 Montreal (119)
 
8586 Edmonton (11) vs. 6263 Detroit (118)
8182 NY Islanders (12) vs. 6667 Montreal (117)
7576 Philadelphia (13) vs. 9091 Pittsburgh (116)
0910 Washington (14) vs. 0102 Carolina (115)
8889 Calgary (15) vs. 9899 Buffalo (114)
7879 NY Islanders (16) vs. 8586 Calgary (113)
7980 Philadelphia (17) vs. 6364 Toronto (112)
7374 Boston (18) vs. 9798 Washington (111)
0001 Colorado (19) vs. 9596 Florida (110)
7879 Montreal (20) vs. 5960 Toronto (109)
 
8889 Montreal (21) vs. 6970 St. Louis (108)
7374 Philadelphia (22) vs. 0304 Calgary (107)
1011 Vancouver (23) vs. 7273 Winnipeg Jets (106)
1314 Boston (24) vs. 6869 St. Louis (105)
0809 San Jose (25) vs. 0506 Edmonton (104)
9293 Pittsburgh (26) vs. 1112 LA (103)
0102 Detroit (27) vs. 1314 NY Rangers (102)
7475 Philadelphia (28) vs. 6263 Toronto (101)
8485 Philadelphia (29) vs. 5657 Montreal (100)
7778 Boston (30) vs. 8788 Boston (99)

 



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7475 Buffalo (31) vs. 6465 Montreal (98)
0708 Detroit (32) vs. 7273 Chicago (97)
6162 Montreal (33) vs. 8283 NY Islanders (96)
7172 NY Rangers (34) vs. 7273 New England Whalers (95)
9899 Dallas (35) vs. 0809 Pittsburgh (94)
9900 St. Louis (36) vs. 6364 Montreal (93)
0607 Buffalo (37) vs. 6162 Toronto (92)
0203 Ottawa (38) vs. 9293 Montreal (91)
8081 NY Islanders (39) vs. 1314 LA (90)
8283 Boston (40) vs. 8788 Edmonton (89)
 
5758 Montreal (41) vs. 6465 Detroit (88)
7071 Chicago (42) vs. 9900 Dallas (87)
0506 Carolina (43) vs. 0708 Pittsburgh (86)
0910 Chicago (44) vs. 1112 New Jersey (85)
0809 Detroit (45) vs. 7071 Montreal (84)
8485 Edmonton (46) vs. 8687 Philadelphia (83)
5455 Detroit (47) vs. 9697 Philadelphia (82)
6869 Montreal (48) vs. 9798 Detroit (81)
0001 New Jersey (49) vs. 9900 New Jersey (80)
1112 Vancouver (50) vs. 1011 Boston (79)
 
0607 Anaheim (51) vs. 5657 Detroit (78)
6667 Chicago (52) vs. 8990 Boston (77)
9394 NY Rangers (53) vs. 9596 Colorado (76)
9798 Dallas (54) vs. 6768 Montreal (75)
0304 Detroit (55) vs. 0607 Ottawa (74)
5455 Montreal (56) vs. 6566 Montreal (73)
8687 Edmonton (57) vs. 1213 Boston (72)
7677 Boston (58) vs. 0304 Tampa Bay (71)
8283 Edmonton (59) vs. 7374 Houston Aeros (70)
9091 Chicago (60) vs. 8384 NY Islanders (69)
 
5960 Montreal (61) vs. 5859 Montreal (68)
6061 Montreal (62) vs. 6970 Chicago (67)
9192 NY Rangers (63) vs. 6970 Boston (66)
8788 Calgary (64) vs. 9697 Colorado (65)

 



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From now on, the series will be best of 7.

I'm actually quick-playing all but 1 game from each series. I would love to play each and every game. But I did some calculations and it would take me 3 to 5 years to finish the project, because I only play hockey about 6 months of the year. So, after a friend's suggestion, I'm doing quick play for most games. I will play the first elimination game of each series. For the rest of the games, I do a minimal amount where I have to adjust which line is against which, and reduce the usage of the 4th forward line and 3rd defensive pair for the 3rd period and overtime. I then quick-sim to the last 2 minutes of the game.

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Looking forward to seeing those 80's Edmonton Oilers in action

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Looking forward to the mid-80s Edmonton teams as well.  They transformed North American hockey.  As you might have guessed, interested in the mid-70s Flyers teams as well.  Will you be reporting penalty minutes?



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Thanks for posting these results.

I actually haven't followed hockey much in...um...decades, as it turns out.  But it'll be nice to see some of the old clubs show up, like the Broad Street Bullies.

I wonder how a series between the Gretzky-led Oilers and Esposito-Orr Bruins would play out.

I had a friend back in the '70's (I know, ancient times...) who was a big Minnesota North Stars fan (the name Danny Grant pops up as I recall).  I never had one team I rooted for, but I remember many of thre individual names, Like Phil and Tony Espo, Bernie Parent, Jacques Plante.

A real treat was getting a chance to see our old WHL Seattle Totems play the Soviet Red Army team (Tretiak, Kharlimov, Maltsev, who all signed my program after the game):

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Gotta root for Gretzky and the Oilers.

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Gonna be hard to beat the great Habs teams from the 50's and 60s.........

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Wow, I've overwhelmed by the comments on this already! Thanks for following along.

TT: not gonna be reporting penalty minutes. However, I could report any penalty totals that are unusually large. I will post the leaders stats after each round.

Seajaw: That's so cool that you got to see the Red Army team and got their autographs!

I have no idea how this tournament is going to play out. I love doing these "what if" cross-era tournaments.

Oh, I forgot to mention how I ranked the teams:

1. by winning percentage

2. If there was tie between 2 or more teams with the same winning pct, I went by Cup winners first, then Cup finalists, then regular season champs, then goal differential.

I plan to do this tournament again, in a couple of years probably, and I'll rank them differently. I'll rank all the Cup winners first, then the Cup finalists, then the regular season champs. So the 9596 Wings and 7071 Bruins will be way down the list. Conversely, the 8586 Habs and the 6061 Hawks will be much higher than in this version of the tournament.

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I know so little about hockey I'm bound to learn something from this! biggrin



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Given the talk about whether or not the San Francisco Giants are a "dynasty," just look at the periods of dominance some of these teams claimed.

For a long stretch, it was rare for a team to not repeat. Just starting as recently as 1980, we have the Islanders going to the Stanley Cup Finals five years in a row (winning in their first four trips).

After winning it all in '80, '81, '82, and '83, they were dethroned by the Gretzky-led Edmonton Oilers (the '83 runners-up), who beat the Islanders in the '84 Finals. The Oilers then followed up with a second win the next season, before not making it '86.

But Gretzky and Co. bounced back for Cup wins in each of the next two seasons, making it four Cups in five years, plus the one year when they made it to the Finals and lost to The Isles.

After faltering in '89, the Oilers won again '90. In all, five Cups in seven seasons, and six trips to the Finals in eight seasons.

The Pittsburgh Penguins ('91 and '92) and Detroit Red Wings ('97 and '98) are the last two clubs to have won consecutive Finals. But three other teams have at least gone to the Finals in consecutive seasons since then (Dallas Stars '99-'00, New Jersey Devils '00-'01, and the Red Wings '08-'09).

The L.A. Kings are poised to become the Giants of the NHL, though, as they have two Cup wins in the last three seasons. One big difference, though, is that the King at least made it to their Conference Finals in the middle season, whereas the Giants did not even reach the postseason in 2013.

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TT:  I've decided to post the boxscores of the games.

Nitrous:  I'll try to give some background on some of the teams.  If you have any questions, just ask away.

Seajaw:  We haven't had a hockey dynasty in over 25 years.  Although the Detroit Red Wings from the mid-90s to about 2010 might come close:  4 Cups in 11 seasons.  I must say that I do like the variability or parity in today's league.  You never know who's going to win it all.

 



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ROUND 2

Detroit wins game 1 in overtime.
 
6566 Detroit (128) at 7677 Montreal (1)
 
Game 1
 
 January 8 1954                   Montreal Forum                     11-02-2014

                                     1   2   3   4     F
6566 Detroit         4-0-0-1         0   0   0   1     1
7677 Montreal        0-0-0-1         0   0   0   0     0

Scoring Summary
Per Time Str Team
 4  2:38  EV  Det MacGregor (3), assisted by Murphy (2) and Fonteyne (1)

Penalty Summary
Per Time Team
 1   :58 Mon Robinson (2), 2:00 - charging
 1  9:51 Det Prentice (4), 2:00 - holding
 1 14:15 Det Marshall (6), 2:00 - cross checking
 1 16:15 Det Boivin (11), 2:00 - hooking
 2  3:49 Mon Lemaire (2), 2:00 - interference
 2 14:42 Det Marshall (
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 3 11:39 Det Bryan Watson (18), 2:00 - tripping
 3 16:25 Mon Shutt (2), 2:00 - hooking

                SOG 1  SOG 2  SOG 3  SOG 4
6566 Detroit      5      6      2      2
7677 Montreal     6      6      6      0

                Det        Mon
SOG              15         18
FOW              14         27
FO%            34.1       65.9
Hits             21         31
Blocks            5          8
Missed Net        7         12
Shot Attempts    30         35
Scoring Chances   2          4
PIM              10          6
PP              0-3        0-5
TOA            4:46       6:44


Star 1: Det Crozier 18 saves
Star 2: Det MacGregor 1 G
Star 3: Det Murphy  1 A

GWG: Bruce MacGregor

Notables: Det None
          Mon None


  6566 Detroit   GA SV  Save%    TOI    W  L OL   Rate
G Crozier (W)     0 18  1.000  62:24    4  0  1    6.8 (+0.2)

  7677 Montreal  GA SV  Save%    TOI    W  L OL   Rate
G Dryden (OL)     1 14   .933  62:22    0  0  1    9.4 (-0.2)

 

Game 2
 

Roger Crozier stones the Habs yet again.  Coach Scotty Bowman is wondering when his team is going to start scoring.
 
 January 9 1955                   Montreal Forum                     11-03-2014

                                     1   2   3     F
6566 Detroit         5-0-0-1         0   1   0     1
7677 Montreal        0-1-0-1         0   0   0     0

Scoring Summary
Per Time Str Team
 2  2:59  EV  Det Ullman (3), assisted by Prentice (5)

Penalty Summary
Per Time Team
 1  7:23 Det Godfrey (2), 2:00 - hooking
 1 12:35 Det Howe (6), 2:00 - holding
 1 17:12 Det Delvecchio (2), 2:00 - roughing
 1 18:14 Det Howe (11), 5:00 - fighting
 1 18:14 Det Barkley (7), 5:00 - fighting
 1 18:14 Mon Risebrough (5), 5:00 - fighting
 1 18:14 Mon Chartraw (5), 5:00 - fighting
 2  2:41 Det Bryan Watson (20), 2:00 - roughing
 2  2:41 Mon Shutt (4), 2:00 - roughing
 2 19:45 Det Smith (2), 2:00 - holding
 3  4:21 Det Harris (2), 2:00 - hooking
 3 16:15 Det Bathgate (2), 2:00 - hooking
 3 18:26 Mon Wilson (2), 2:00 - hooking

                SOG 1  SOG 2  SOG 3
6566 Detroit      5      3      7
7677 Montreal    10     10      9

                Det        Mon
SOG              15         29
FOW              17         25
FO%            40.5       59.5
Hits             20         21
Blocks           14          3
Missed Net        5          8
Shot Attempts    23         51
Scoring Chances   4          4
PIM              24         14
PP              0-1        0-6
TOA            2:51       6:08

Injuries: Tremblay(Mon)-game

Star 1: Det Crozier 29 saves
Star 2: Det Ullman 1 G
Star 3: Det Prentice  1 A

GWG: Norm Ullman

Notables: Det None
          Mon None


  6566 Detroit   GA SV  Save%    TOI    W  L OL   Rate
G Crozier (W)     0 29  1.000  60:00    5  0  1    6.7 (+0.1)

  7677 Montreal  GA SV  Save%    TOI    W  L OL   Rate
G Dryden (L)      1 14   .933  59:46    0  1  1    9.3 (-0.3)

 



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