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In an unfortunately meaningless game for the Reds (other than for determining final rankings below the number one spot), the Big Red Machine easily tops the Cardinals 8-3.  The Reds could finish as high as second in the final National League rankings, but, as previously noted, the number one slot will go to either the Padres or the Cubs.  Including the “regular season”, the Cardinals have lost seven in a row.  After 12 games, they were (along with the Cubs and Orioles) among the Major League elite at 9-3.
                             R   H   E
St. Louis Cardinals (0-3)    3   5   1
Cincinnati Reds (1-1)        8  11   1
   W – Merritt (1-0)
   L – Torrez (0-1)
   HR – none

The Padres finally are beaten, but it takes the Mets 11 innings to do it.  Danny Frisella, who saw his first action of the entire tournament, gets the win.  For the third straight game, no one hits a homerun.  (Must be that chilly autumn air.)  The Padres fall to 2-1, but they can still win the pennant if they beat the Cubs.  The only question is how many times they must win.  If the Cubs lose their next game (against the Reds) a win by the Padres will seal the deal.  But if the Cubs beat the Reds, then the Padres must defeat the Cubs twice . . . no easy task.  
                             R   H   E
New York Mets (1-1)          4  12   3  (11 inns)
San Diego Padres (2-1)       3  10   1
   W – Frisella (1-0)
   L – Santorini (0-1)
   HR – none



-- Edited by boomer on Saturday 21st of January 2017 10:26:30 PM

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I can't believe it took so long to get Frisella into a game.

He and McGraw were quite a righty-lefty tag team relief pair for a few years there, before Danny got shipped off to Atlanta.

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seajaw wrote:

I can't believe it took so long to get Frisella into a game.

He and McGraw were quite a righty-lefty tag team relief pair for a few years there, before Danny got shipped off to Atlanta.


This was the result of the rules I set up for added pitchers, which I now think are overly restrictive.  The original SI game came with eight pitchers.  Frisella was not included.  I added a pitcher to each team, but allowed them to pitch only in blow-outs (as I defined them), extra innings and when all other relievers had been used.  The Mets were never in any of those situations until now.  Frisella's card is quite good . . . possibly the best of any extra player.  With the tying run on third, he rolled a strikeout to end the game (which means the batter did not even get an opportunity to roll on his card).



-- Edited by boomer on Sunday 22nd of January 2017 10:56:41 AM

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Upcoming games . . .

Yankees (2-0) at Orioles (1-1).  A Yankees win coupled with a Twins loss means the Bronx Bombers take the AL crown.  Stan Bahnsen or Fritz Peterson will take on either Jim Palmer or Mike Cuellar.  At present, both managers are holding their cards close to their vests.

Senators (1-2) at Twins (1-1).  The Senators are playing only for pride at this point.  Regardless of the outcome of the Yankees-Orioles game, this is a must-win for the Twins because both the Orioles and the Brewers hold the tiebreaker advantage over them.  Casey Cox will take the mound for the Senators.  Bert Blyleven will pitch for the Twins.

Reds (1-1) at Cubs (2-0).  The Reds are done, but still fighting for a final #2 ranking.  A win by the Cubs means that the idle Padres will have to defeat them twice in a row to win the NL crown.  A Cubs loss means the final Padres-Cubs game will be a winner-take-all event.  Gary Nolan (the only pitcher to beat Fergie Jenkins so far) will face-off against either Bill Hands or Ken Holtzman.

Cardinals (0-3) at Mets (1-1).  The Cardinals have clinched the last-place slot in the play-offs.  The Mets could finish as high as second.  Steve Carlton will start for the Cards, while Jerry Koosman goes for the Mets.



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Can't wait!...............FWIW, I LOVE this replay, way more then I thought I would........props to you for running and sharing it!!!...........

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nacster wrote:

Can't wait!...............FWIW, I LOVE this replay, way more then I thought I would........props to you for running and sharing it!!!...........


Glad you're enjoying it as much as I.  1970 was an important baseball year for me.  It was my first full year as a fan (and getting to know all the players).  I saw my first baseball game.  Newly opened Riverfront Stadium was the biggest, most colorful and loudest  thing I'd ever seen in my life.  After the season ended, I bought the 1970 NL + Orioles SOM cards and played a middling replay.  (The Reds beat the Cardinals in the playoffs then beat the Orioles in seven - with Frank Robinson just barely missing a series-winning homerun on the final roll!  I remember.  He had a homerun on 2-10 and I rolled a 2-11.)  A friend of mine had the SI set and we played many games.  SI was generally superior to SOM, I think, though that would change with the 1971 cards.  Add it all up, it's been a nice trip down memory lane.  I might take a similar trip with the 1968 football season.



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The Twins remain alive with a convincing 8-2 win over the Senators, who were in a good position after their game one win against the Orioles.  But they lost their next three and will finish last in the playoff round.  Tony Oliva (.545 average) continues his hot hitting for the Twins with a pair of hits, including his third homerun of the playoff round.  Unlike the NL, it’s still a bit crowded in the AL, with the Twins, Yankees, Orioles and Brewers all still in the hunt.

                             R   H   E
Washington Senators (1-3)    2   8   0
Minnesota Twins (2-1)        8  12   0
   W – Blyleven (1-0)
   L – Cox (0-1)
   HR – Howard-WAS (3), Oliva-MIN (3), Alyea-MIN

Like the Twins, the Orioles win what turned out to be a must win game for them.  Homeruns accounted for all of their runs.  Bobby Murcer also went yard twice for the Yanks, but it wasn’t enough against Cuellar, who went the distance for the somewhat rocky win.  The Yankees scored two in the top of the eighth to knot the game at 4-4, but a solo shot by Dave Johnson in the bottom of the inning put the Orioles ahead to stay.

The win by the Orioles eliminates the Brewers, who can finish no better than 2-2.  The Orioles, who have a weighty division-winner tie-breaker, control their own destiny.  If they beat the Brewers, they clinch the pennant.  If they lose, then the winner of the Yankees-Twins game takes the crown.

                             R   H   E
New York Yankees (2-1)       4   9   0
Baltimore Orioles (2-1)      5   8   1
   W – Cuellar (1-1)
   L – Kline (0-1)
   HR – Murcer-NY 2, B.Robinson-BAL, Johnson-BAL, Etchebarren-BAL



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It’s been an incredible playoff series so far, with plenty of come-from-behind efforts, one-run games and walk-off victories.  This game included all three.  Bill Hands and the Cubs jumped out to a 4-0 lead, with Hands perfect through five.  In the sixth, however, the Reds exploded for four runs, capped off by a three-run shot over the right field bleachers by Bernie Carbo. But in the bottom of the ninth, Glenn Beckert answered with a homerun over the ivy in left-center for the walk-off win.

The Cubs are 3-0 and will face the Padres (2-1) in the fourth and potentially final game.  If the Cubs win, the pennant is theirs.  If they lose, there will be a fifth and deciding game between the same two teams for all the marbles.
 
                           R   H   E
Cincinnati Reds (1-2)      4   5   1
Chicago Cubs (3-0)         5   8   0
   W – Colborn (1-0)
   L – Carroll (0-2)
   HR – Carbo-CIN (2), Beckert-CHI, Williams-CHI

Guess what?  More of the same, as the Mets, down 3-0, ultimately rally to win 5-4 in their last at bat!  With the bases loaded in the bottom of the ninth and down 4-3, Tommie Agee (4 for 5 on the day) singled home the tying and winning runs against Bob Gibson.  Agee’s .636 average is the best among playoff participants.  Since this was the last game of the season for the Cards, Gibson (sufficiently rested) was able the appear in relief.  But he loses his second game.  Danny Frisella, on the other hand, pitches his second game in a row and gets his second win.  The Mets can finish in second place if they beat the Reds and the Cubs beat the Padres.

                             R   H   E
St. Louis Cardinals (0-4)    4  10   2
New York Mets (2-1)          5  10   1
   W – Frisella (2-0)
   L – Gibson (0-2)
   HR – Javier-STL, Clendenon-NY

FrisellaDanny.jpg  51dcmysm4kl._sl1500_.jpg

   Topps illustrates perspective distortion at the expense of Danny Frisella.  OK
  guys.  Very funny.  You can stop playing with your new wide-angle lenses now.



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Two games, two wins.  Cool!



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Does using SI change the way you manage compared to Strat?

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Nitrous Oxide wrote:

Does using SI change the way you manage compared to Strat?


I'm not familiar with modern SOM with all of the super-advanced bells and whistles - actually, I think you get to a point where, paradoxically or ironically, more "realism" makes the game less realistic (but that's the subject of another thread) - and some people have made many advancements to the SI game, so I'll compare 1970 SI with the advanced 1971-style SOM game. 

(1)  The biggest difference is that pitchers have one card against all batters (no L-R splits).  This means your decision about which player should hit in a given situation entirely depends on how he hits against a lefty or righty, as the case may be.  The same thought process goes into deciding which reliever (or starter) to use.

(2)  The next big difference is defense, which is less important in SI.  Errors are based (but only to a modest degree) on how often the batter hits into an error.  There are two catcher throwing ratings (good and average).  Great defensive plays are the result of a cumulative total, so essentially the entire team makes an "automatic [defensive] out."  For example, a great shortstop might be a +10.  If the team totals +35, then they have a certain automatic out rating.  Replace the shortstop with a +0 and the total rating goes down +25, which lowers the automatic out chance.  I haven't crunched the numbers, but I don't think the difference is significant.  In SOM, I'd think twice about replacing a 1 with a 4 (especially if there was a hefty error rating difference).  I sometimes select a catcher with a good arm when facing a good running team, but not if there's a significant hitting difference between the two catchers.

(3)  SI running is based on stolen bases, and there is no "holding" runners.  I probably would use pinch runners more in SOM.

(4)  There is no hit-and-run option in SOM, though someone invented a rule that can be used in the board game.  Neither is there an infield/outfield-in option.

(5)  Bunting - either good or average.  Nothing in between.

(6)  No pitcher fatigue, but it has been incorporated into other computer seasons.  I have my own "must pull" rules.



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Thanks for that. I've played SI once and that was 25 years ago.

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Nitrous Oxide wrote:

Thanks for that. I've played SI once and that was 25 years ago.


 I had the All-Time All-Star sheets for each team, I think 1971........amazing how so many very average players would be knocked off each team's rosters (for example, the Yankees other 1Bman besides Gehrig was.......Hal Chase).



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1976

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nacster wrote:
Nitrous Oxide wrote:

Thanks for that. I've played SI once and that was 25 years ago.


 I had the All-Time All-Star sheets for each team, I think 1971........amazing how so many very average players would be knocked off each team's rosters (for example, the Yankees other 1Bman besides Gehrig was.......Hal Chase).


Yes.  It was bit flawed because it used only stats at the time.  So players in the middle of their careers (e.g., Johnny Bench) looked better than they would have had they been assessed a decade later.  But it was fun at the time because we didn't know about those later players or that Johnny Bench wouldn't end up as the all-time home run leader.

Someone created an updated All-Time All-Stars set, but I examined it and the "cards" are way off.  The primary problem with any new teams is, I think, careless inputting of the relevant stats.  (I understand the same problem plagued Lance Haffner's teams.)  For this reason, I doubt I'll play any more SI baseball.  There were some flaws in the way SI created the 1970 charts, which were exacerbated by inputting errors in the computer version I have.  I had to proof all computer charts against the originals and make necessary changes.  That got rid of the secondary errors, but left the SI game as-is (warts and all).  But I was OK with that because I just wanted to play the original game.

The foregoing is the primary reason to stick with SOM.  I think (or assume) their quality control is good.  Plus they have many fans only too willing to examine the cards and point out potential flaws.



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ORIOLES WIN PENNANT!
Boog Powell went four for four with a homerun and three RBIs as the Baltimore Orioles edged the Milwaukee Brewers 4-3 to take the American League crown.  Pete Richert got his second win in relief.  Jim Palmer, who was not needed as a starter during the playoff round, picked up the save.  The game was a see-saw affair with Boog Powell providing the game-winning hit with a solo blast in the bottom of the seventh.

 123456789  R  HE LOB
Milwaukee Brewers (1-3)002000100  3  90  11
Baltimore Orioles (3-1)10101010x  4 131  10
BrewersPOSABRHRBIAVG OriolesPOSABRHRBIAVG
ROBERTO PENASS5120.167 DON BUFORDLF5120.400
DAVE MAYCF4000.267 PAUL BLAIRCF5120.313
TOMMY HARPER3B4111.438 FRANK ROBINSONRF4010.250
TED SAVAGERF4022.250 BOOG POWELL1B4243.462
DANNY WALTONLF5010.059 BROOKS ROBINSON3B3010.267
JERRY McNERTNEYC 3000.077 DAVE JOHNSON2B4000.200
   KEN SANDERSP 0000.200 ANDY ETCHEBARRENC 4021.375
   MAX ALVISPH1000.000 MARK BELANGERSS2000.273
   MARTY PATTINP 0000.000 DAVE McNALLYP 2000.333
MIKE HEGAN1B3010.200    MERV RETTENMUNDPH1000.333
TED KUBIAK2B4010.385    PETE RICHERTP 0000.000
BOBBY BOLINP 11101.000    TERRY CROWLEYPH1010.667
   PHIL ROOFC 1000.000    JIM PALMERP 0000.000
BrewersIPHBBSORERERA OriolesIPHBBSORERERA
BOBBY BOLIN4.21034335.79 DAVE McNALLY5534224.50
KEN SANDERS1.1000002.70 PETE RICHERT
   W (2-0)
3414111.50
MARTY PATTIN
   L (0-2)
2300112.89 JIM PALMER SV (1)1001000.00
2B:TED SAVAGE (1)
HR:BOOG POWELL (1)
RBI:TOMMY HARPER (5) TED SAVAGE (4) BOOG POWELL (3) ANDY ETCHEBARREN (2)
SB:TOMMY HARPER (3) DON BUFORD (4)


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