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So with nothing to do this afternoon, I flipped on SNY (Mets network).  They replayed a game from August 27th, 1986.

Mets blew a 5-0 lead, and won in 11 innings 6-5.

A few observations.........

1) Even though the game was 6-5, with both teams getting 13 hits each and making 3 errors combined and walking 6 between both teams, so there were lots of runners on base....the time of the game was 3 hours, 7 minutes.

2) At no time did I ever see a little box on screen with the score, runners on base, out, or the dreaded "pitch count".  Once in awhile they would show balls/strikes/outs.

3) Players wore stirrups pulled high (no uniforms dragging on the ground, which look horrible and sloppy), and those Mets double-knits look like they were poured onto the players.

4) Goose Gossage....their closer (came into the game 5-6 with 21 saves)...pitched the last 3 innings

5) Each team used only 4 pitchers.

6) Batters stayed either in the box, or barely stepped out between pitches.

7) Gossage took approximately...that long...once he got the sign and went into his delivery.

8) Tim McCarver actually was a good announcer back then.

9) I miss Ralph Kiner's announcing.

10) Steve Garvey had the hairiest arms I have ever seen on a player.

11) No one wears a Fu Manchu anymore (like Gossage did).

12) Jack Murphy Stadium had no signage on the outfield walls, nor anything behind homeplate.

13) After Strawberry fanned to end the 11th, he made a gesture towards the 3rd base ump who called him out on a check swing that would get a player tossed nowadays 99 times out of 100 (he flipped his bat, flashed two fingers at the ump for the pitches they missed, then gave a slight throat slash/choke sign and gave him the "pshhh" wave).

14) The Padres left after the game to fly to....Montreal.

15) The game ended this way..........Doug Sisk pitching for the Mets in the bottom of the 11th, Garry Templeton doubled leading off...Gossage was due up next but the Padres had run out of position players, so Craig Lefferts had to pinch hit.....Lefferts failed to get the bunt down twice, then struck out......Tim Flannery was up next, and he hit a grounder back up the middle for a base hit to center....Dykstra (who never was known as having a good arm) came up throwing about a 3 hopper and the ball beat Templeton, but he bowled over John Gibbons (knocked him head over tail, which obviously you can't do anymore), Gibbons holding onto the ball for out #2......on his back Gibbons showed the ball to the ump, then got up and threw to 3rd where Flannery was trying to sneak in there, and Ray Knight tagged him out......just your routine 8-2-5 game ending putout.

 



-- Edited by nacster on Thursday 14th of July 2016 05:03:51 PM

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Good stuff nac. That game time is about 7 innings worth today



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Amazing how much things have changed, just since then.

As much as we all want pitchers to get to chuckin', we also need to get hitters back in the box.  How often did hitters ask for time, because the pitcher was taking too long?

I always thought Tiant rocked the Fu.  I remember Rod's Beck's Fu.

Signage used to be all over the place in prior years.  Take a look at old Fenway:

http://fenwayparkdiaries.com/fenway%20park%20(05).jpg

http://www.fenwayfanatics.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/green_monster_1914_800x430-624x335.jpg

Remember signage for Gem Blades, and Calvert Whiskey?  Or "Hit the sign; win a suit"?

I'm surprised Strawberry didn't get tossed.  "Superstar" protection, I'd guess.



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seajaw wrote:

Amazing how much things have changed, just since then.

As much as we all want pitchers to get to chuckin', we also need to get hitters back in the box.  How often did hitters ask for time, because the pitcher was taking too long?

I always thought Tiant rocked the Fu.  I remember Rod's Beck's Fu.

Signage used to be all over the place in prior years.  Take a look at old Fenway:

http://fenwayparkdiaries.com/fenway%20park%20(05).jpg

http://www.fenwayfanatics.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/green_monster_1914_800x430-624x335.jpg

Remember signage for Gem Blades, and Calvert Whiskey?  Or "Hit the sign; win a suit"?

I'm surprised Strawberry didn't get tossed.  "Superstar" protection, I'd guess.


 

Or the Chesterfield sign at the Polo Grounds..........

There was a time when signage fell out of favor.  Possibly in the 70's, when Cincinnati, Pittsburgh, and Philadelphia opened their stadiums within a few months of each other.  The stadiums all looked the same and felt the same.  I know most every stadium in the 70's and 80's didn't have any signage there.

The bigger question is........when did it come back into vogue and what stadium started it back again?  Or did the sponsors just kind of creep in while we had our heads turned for the hot dog vendor?



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The stadiums without signs tended to be multipurpose ones. That made it harder.

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I was also watching a game from yesteryear. I have a set of World Series games from the 1952 series to the 70s. I was watching Game 7 of the 1952 series - Mel Allen and Red Barber announcing. Allen has a long introduction of the game - you never see him, just a shot of the field. Both pitchers warming up - Eddie Lopat for the Yankees and Joe Black for the Dodgers - on the field in front of their dugouts. The grounds crew is shown putting the batting boxes to either side of home plate. And there were plenty of signs adorning the outfield wall (the game was at Ebbets Field). I only watched the first inning before going to bed.

I should watch more carefully and take some notes to compare the eras. I think the set also has the 1966 WS, the 1969 WS, the 1971 WS, and the 1976 WS.



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Agreed, nice thread.  I was reading Bushville Wins a couple of weeks ago (about the 1957 Braves) and decided to check out game 1 of the 1957 World Series on Youtube. I could not believe how fast the game played. You stepped in, the pitcher rocked into his windup (big windup by Warren Spahn. Unbelievable really.) and pitched.  No muss, no fuss. And then you did it all over again. I was also surprised how many batters showed bunt on the first pitch they saw.  They did not actually try to bunt, just showed it and then watched the infielders and the pitch.



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