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1977 C&D NFL Replay
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Week #12 is underway in my C&D replay. I will post quick write-ups each game and leaders and standings each week...

 

Here is how things look headed into week #12

 

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What the devil is going on with those Brownies? Not a good year by the lake.

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I'd like to take the opportunity to welcome Fishfan77 to SOMers. He and I have shared many Strat stories over the past couple years.

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Ahhh, I think this was the last year of the old 14-game schedule...........

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Man I know that the era wasn't conducive to high scoring games, but SIX teams averaging 10.0 points or less??????????

Gotta be the game system, no?



-- Edited by nacster on Wednesday 31st of August 2016 02:23:22 PM

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In 1977 team averaged 17.2 points per game..

Other than the top 3-4, the QB cards are horrible as are kickers. It is almost impossible to put together any kind of offense with at least half the teams. Bucs, Jets, Bills are putrid.

I defy anyone to average the 12.9 the Giants did in real life with their collective two QBS owning a 43.1% with 6 TDs and 22 int.. smile



Seven teams averaged 13 points or less in real life.



-- Edited by fishfan77 on Wednesday 31st of August 2016 02:56:13 PM

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Your league average is 14.4 (about a field goal per game less than real life). Could the kickers be undercarded somehow, or do you think this is just the way the dice are rolling?

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Will have to post league stats after this week. I know kicking has been pretty bad....

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In 1977 team averaged 17.2 points per game..

Other than the top 3-4, the QB cards are horrible as are kickers. It is almost impossible to put together any kind of offense with at least half the teams. Bucs, Jets, Bills are putrid.

I defy anyone to average the 12.9 the Giants did in real life with their collective two QBS owning a 43.1% with 6 TDs and 22 int.. smile



Seven teams averaged 13 points or less in real life.



-- Edited by fishfan77 on Wednesday 31st of August 2016 02:56:13 PM


 So the game system does seem to suppress scoring a little...........

As a Giants fan since 1970, I know allllllllll about their QB situation back then.  Craig Morton was supposed to be the guy, and he sucked, just didn't even want to play there (like Larry Csonka), and they got rid of him before the season.  So you had "Patterson Plank" Joe Pisarcik who could throw the ball nine miles but couldn't hit water if he fell out of a boat, and the lefty Jerry Golsteyn who threw the only 2 TD's of his 6 year career in 1977 (at least that's what the record books say.....unless I find actual NFL game footage I have to take that fact with a grain of salt, like the Loch Ness Monster and Bigfoot).

They had great linebackers.........Brad Van Pelt, Brian Kelley, and Harry Carson, plus George Martin at end..........but Van Pelt and Kelley were old and had been a part of the losing tradition for so many years (along with Bob Tucker, Doug Van Horn, and a few others) that their roster was just void of any semblance of talent.  They mismanaged the team for so long with bad drafts and horrible trades that they became completely irrelevant until they drafted Phil Simms in 1979....and even then it took Pete Rozelle to convince the feuding Mara's to hire George Young as GM.....for years they would just give jobs to former Giants greats of the 50's and early 60's like Andy Robustelli, who had no talent-judging acumen at all.

Growing up a Giants fan was horrible.  Back then (I was 15 in 1977) kids were fans of......Dallas, Pittsburgh, Miami, and Oakland.......and that was about it.  Once in awhile you get the random Rams fan or Redskins fan.  The teams that won basically every year (I live smack dab in the middle of Bills country and even back then, when the team was impossibly bad, you rarely met a Bills fan).  I never ever though in my wildest dreams I would ever get a chance to see the Giants even make the damn playoffs, let alone win 4 Super Bowls (so far).



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boomer wrote:

Your league average is 14.4 (about a field goal per game less than real life). Could the kickers be undercarded somehow, or do you think this is just the way the dice are rolling?


 Kickers back then just weren't nowhere near as good as they are now............not even remotely close.  Remember the year (1983 maybe) they gave the MVP award...........the LEAGUE MVP............to Mark Moseley because he went like 22-for-24 or something like that on FG's for the season?

Just checked.......1982, the strike shortened year, he went 20-for-21..........that got him MVP..........



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"NACSTER'S HISTORICAL REPLAY"

34 REPLAYS IN THE BOOKS!

1876-1883

1896-1900

1906

1916-1917

1921, 1929

1936-1937

1943, 1946

1956-1963

1976

1986

1991, 1996

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IN 1977 the aforementioned Mark Moseley kicked the most FG's in the league.............21.

He was 21-for-37.

These are the Top 10............in FG%............in 1977.................75% was THE BEST??!??!!!!?!

 

Field Goal %
1.Toni Fritsch • HOU75.000%
2.Rolf Benirschke • SDG73.913%
 Don ****roft • CLE73.913%
4.Errol Mann • OAK71.429%
 John Smith • NWE71.429%
6.Chris Bahr • CIN70.370%
7.Jim Turner • DEN68.421%
8.Toni Linhart • BAL65.385%
9.Roy Gerela • PIT64.286%
10.Carson Long • BUF63.636%


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"NACSTER'S HISTORICAL REPLAY"

34 REPLAYS IN THE BOOKS!

1876-1883

1896-1900

1906

1916-1917

1921, 1929

1936-1937

1943, 1946

1956-1963

1976

1986

1991, 1996

37,117 regular season games through 34 replays!

 

 



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Lack of passing offense suppressed scoring........ 141 yards per game with 1.0 TD and 1.4 int per game.

1977 was the LOWEST scoring season of the Modern NFL, a full point per game less than 1974. You have to go back to 1941 to find a season with less scoring...





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fishfan77 wrote:

Lack of passing offense suppressed scoring........ 141 yards per game with 1.0 TD and 1.4 int per game.

1977 was the LOWEST scoring season of the Modern NFL, a full point per game less than 1974. You have to go back to 1941 to find a season with less scoring...




 Correct me if I am wrong, but wasn't the offseason between 1977 and 1978 when a lot of rules changes were created to increase scoring (besides expanding the season from 14 to 16 games)??



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"NACSTER'S HISTORICAL REPLAY"

34 REPLAYS IN THE BOOKS!

1876-1883

1896-1900

1906

1916-1917

1921, 1929

1936-1937

1943, 1946

1956-1963

1976

1986

1991, 1996

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yep, probably because it had really become a dead ball league......... '78 averaged a little over 1 ppg more, and in 1979 it was up to 20.0 ppg...


en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1978_NFL_season

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