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Odd Pitching Line

The 1951 Phillies Ken Johnson went up against the light hitting Cincinnati Reds in the 125th game of the season.  Johnson was pulled in the 6th inning of this scoreless game

                                                  IP     H  R  ER   SO   W 

with the following pitching line.    5 1/3  0  3   3    1     5   (2-HBP)


Johnson walked the bases loaded in the 6th and his endurance marks had started.  At that point he had not allowed a hit or a run.

On came Heintzelman from the bullpen and he immediately gave up the Reds first hit, a single by Connie Ryan.  After walking Howell and Litwhiler,

Heintzelman gave up a grand slam to light hitting Wally Post.  His 1st homer of the season. 

Three of the seven runs scored in the inning by the Reds were charged to Johnson.

In hindsight I should have left Johnson in the game until he gave up a hit.



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Rough inning.

I would agree with keeping Johnson in the game, at least until the first hit. Give him a chance to work out of the mess.

How much of the total damage was actually on the pitchers' cards?

And it's not all that unusual to give up runs in a no-hit game. Even multiple runs.

I remember Matt Young tossing a no-hitter and losing, 3-0. It was a road game, so there was no bottom of the ninth. Since he only pitched eight innings, the game was removed when they purged the "official" list of all no-hit games that didn't result in nine innings pitched (such as rain-shortened efforts), or hits were allowed after the ninth.


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My very first no-hitter in my replay project was a 4-2 win by Ron Kline in my 1958 replay.... the box score and notes are near the beginning of the Nacster Greatest Games thread......








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Of course, the "other" Ken Johnson pitched a no-hitter in 1964 and lost to the Reds. He allowed an unearned run and the Colt 45s were shut out. He walked two in that game, but they were ill-timed, along with the error leading to as hard luck defeat as was possible. I remember being transfixed by his baseball card from 1965 (the oversized set Topps put out that year) and the re-telling of his no-hit loss.

IIRC, he was threw a knuckleball, but had good control of it until late in his career.


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Tough loss for Johnson. You had a hard call to make. You made it. The outcome was not what you hoped for, but it was a good call. I'm glad I did not have to make it.


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