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nacster wrote:

Love the dirt on the field at Wrigley!!!


I only recently discovered the Bears played at Wrigley Field.  I thought they had played at Soldier Field since George Hallas was in knee pants.  I wanted to give the field a mixed-use feel, like I did with Cleveland (where the the baseball field is in the end zone pointing towards mid-field).  It occurs to me now that most of the fields must have been like that in September (with a sad mixture of lousy resodding and colored dirt for the remainder of the season).  I might look at some NFL films footage from the late 1960s just to check out what the fields looked like.



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Following along. Go Rams!


 I think the Rams have one of the best balanced teams.  They have a solid quarterback and running game and a killer defense.



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Three more week two games.  The Rams’ defense shuts down the Falcons.  The Lions take the lead in the Central Division.  The Packers stay close while giving Bart Starr some needed rest.

Next up, a pair of interleague games finish out the week.

                            1   2   3   4    F
Atlanta Falcons
(0-2)       0   0   7   0    7
Los Angeles Rams (2-0)      7   3   7   0   17
   LA defense 112 yds allowed, 6 sacks (D.Jones 2)
   R.Gabriel (LA) 16/26, 189 yds, TD, int
   J.Snow (LA) 3 rec 65 yds
   H.Wages (ATL) 4 rush 46 yds, 34 yd TD run
   T.Nobis (ATL) 18 tkls    

                            1   2   3   4    F
Detroit Lions
(2-0)         7   7   0  10   24
Chicago Bears (1-1)         3   7   3   3   16
   B.Munson (DET) 13/21, 141 yds, 2 TD, int
   P.Naumoff (DET) 2 int, pick-6
   E.McCullouch (DET) 3 rec 71 yds, TD
   B.Piccolo (CHI) 9 rush 82 yds, TD, 2 rec 29 yds
   J.Concannon (CHI) 12/20, 154 yds, 4 int    

                            1   2   3   4    F
Philadelphia Eagles
(0-2)   3   0   0   0    3
Green Bay Packers (1-1)     7   3  10  10   30
   GB five int (H.Adderly 3)
   Z.Bratkowski (GB) 11/17, 112 yds
   J.Grabowski (GB) 14 rush 58 yds, TD
   E.McCullouch (DET) 3 rec 71 yds, TD
   N.Snead (PHI) 12/22, 117 yds, 3 int
   I.Lang (PHI) 4 rush 33 yds



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Controversy surrounded the first of two AFL-NFL match-ups in week two,  With the Houston Oilers and the New Orleans Saints tied at 24-24 with 3:29 left, Billy Kilmer drove the Saints 79 yards to the Oilers’ two yard-line with one second left.  The field goal by Charlie Durkee was good, but the Saints were flagged for offensive holding.  By rule, no points, game over.  The Saints become the first NFL team not to defeat an AFL opponent. no

                              1   2   3   4    F
Houston Oilers
(0-0-1)        7   7   3   6   24
New Orleans Saints (0-1-1)   14   7   0   3   24
   P.Beathard (HOU) 11/22, 297 yds, 2 TD, 2 int
   J.Beirne (HOU) 2 rec 92 yds, 80 yd TD
   H.Granger (HOU) 12 rush 62 yds
   B.Kilmer (NO) 21/32, 214 yds, 3 TD
   D.Abramowicz (NO) 7 rec 68 yds, TD



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Controversy surrounded the first of two AFL-NFL match-ups in week two,  With the Houston Oilers and the New Orleans Saints tied at 24-24 with 3:29 left, Billy Kilmer drove the Saints 79 yards to the Oilers’ two yard-line with one second left.  The field goal by Charlie Durkee was good, but the Saints were flagged for offensive holding.  By rule, no points, game over.  The Saints become the first NFL team not to defeat an AFL opponent. no

                              1   2   3   4    F
Houston Oilers
(0-0-1)        7   7   3   6   24
New Orleans Saints (0-1-1)   14   7   0   3   24
   P.Beathard (HOU) 11/22, 297 yds, 2 TD, 2 int
   J.Beirne (HOU) 2 rec 92 yds, 80 yd TD
   H.Granger (HOU) 12 rush 62 yds
   B.Kilmer (NO) 21/32, 214 yds, 3 TD
   D.Abramowicz (NO) 7 rec 68 yds, TD


 You sure about that rule???...........I mean if it is incorporated into the timing of the game, I would have to say SOM is right, but I just don't know........



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Controversy surrounded the first of two AFL-NFL match-ups in week two,  With the Houston Oilers and the New Orleans Saints tied at 24-24 with 3:29 left, Billy Kilmer drove the Saints 79 yards to the Oilers’ two yard-line with one second left.  The field goal by Charlie Durkee was good, but the Saints were flagged for offensive holding.  By rule, no points, game over.  The Saints become the first NFL team not to defeat an AFL opponent. no

                              1   2   3   4    F
Houston Oilers
(0-0-1)        7   7   3   6   24
New Orleans Saints (0-1-1)   14   7   0   3   24
   P.Beathard (HOU) 11/22, 297 yds, 2 TD, 2 int
   J.Beirne (HOU) 2 rec 92 yds, 80 yd TD
   H.Granger (HOU) 12 rush 62 yds
   B.Kilmer (NO) 21/32, 214 yds, 3 TD
   D.Abramowicz (NO) 7 rec 68 yds, TD


You sure about that rule???...........I mean if it is incorporated into the timing of the game, I would have to say SOM is right, but I just don't know........


I certainly questioned the result in my mind, wondering if I needed to somehow override the computer and replay the down.  But I looked it up and SOM is correct.  Here's a digest of the rule (with #2 being the applicable portion):

Foul on Last Play of Half or Game

  1. On a foul by defense on last play of half or game, the down is replayed if penalty is accepted.
  2. On a foul by the offense on last play of half or game, the down is not replayed and the play in which the foul is committed is nullified.
    Exception: Fair catch interference, foul following change of possession, illegal touching.
    No score by offense counts.

There's a variation of the rule for college football, which the officials in the Central Michigan vs Oklahoma State game screwed up last year.  The screw-up gave CMU an additional play and a victory.

http://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/mac-officials-blew-cmu-oklahoma-st-last-play-hail-mary-shouldve-never-happened/

I have a few beefs with SOM, but I will admit that their computer version implements the game and the sport's rules quite well.  Over at the "official" fan site, there always were complaints about a particular result, but upon examination the computer was proved right every time.  C&D may be fun and better for picking and choosing which rules (including homemade rules) to use, but I guarantee a human playing the advanced game using C&D makes a significant number of errors.  If this had been C&D, I would have backed New Orleans up 15 yards and re-kicked.

The lesson I learned is that one should never let the clock run down in a situation like that.  One should leave enough time so that your kick won't be the final play.



-- Edited by boomer on Tuesday 14th of March 2017 12:21:46 PM

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                       "Now you tell me!"



-- Edited by boomer on Tuesday 14th of March 2017 08:02:42 PM

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nacster wrote:

I was just on the football reference site, and found something very interesting, showing just how the game has changed.

Now granted, it is 50 years ago.......but the Cardinals had a guy named Chuck Latourette.........number #26, 6 foot tall, 190 pounds, from Rice, was a running back in college.

In 1968 he led the league in punt returns, punt return yardage, and punt return average, averaging 12.3 yards per return, running one back for a TD.

He also led the league in kick returns and kick return yardage. Plus he led the league in all purpose yards (which nowadays is a much more heralded stat).

But get this...........he was also THE TEAM'S PUNTER!!!!!!..........averaging 41.6 yards per kick on 65 punts!


 Latourette just took a Larry Seiple punt 63 yards to the house to give the Cardinals a 14-3 lead over the Dolphins.



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Now it would be funny if he punted a ball and the Dolphins guy returned it for a TD........

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nacster wrote:

Now it would be funny if he punted a ball and the Dolphins guy returned it for a TD........


Not quite, but Latourette did pick up a first down on a nine-yard run on a fake punt!  And did I say a 63-yard punt return?  Make that 80.

Week two ends with a bit of redemption for the NFL.  The Cardinals were ahead 31-3 at the half.  They coasted to a 37-6 win with their back-up quarterback playing the entire second half (and the rest of their second string skill players not far behind).

                               1   2   3   4    F
Miami Dolphins
(0-1-0)         3   0   3   0    6
St. Louis Cardinals (1-1-0)   14  17   0   6   37
   STL defense 98 yds allowed, 8 sacks
   J.Hart (STL) 8/16, 140 yds, TD, int (first half)
   C.Latourette (STL) 5 punt ret 106 yds, 80 yd TD, 9 yd 1st down run (fake punt)
   J.Kiick (MIA) 9 rush 36 yds
   B.Griese (MIA) 5/13, 43 yds, int, sacked 5 times (-39 yds)



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NFL STANDINGS

Capitol         W   L   T    PCT   PF   PA
Washington      2   0   0  1.000   66   23
New York        2   0   0  1.000   55   31
Dallas          1   1   0   .500   37   37
Philadelphia    0   2   0   .000   18   61

Century         W   L   T    PCT   PF   PA
Pittsburgh      2   0   0  1.000   65   27
St. Louis       1   1   0   .500   57   40
Cleveland       1   1   0   .500   48   56
New Orleans     0   1   1   .250   27   49

Coastal         W   L   T    PCT   PF   PA
Los Angeles     2   0   0  1.000   48   22
San Francisco   1   1   0   .500   47   47
Atlanta         0   2   0   .000   24   41
Baltimore       0   2   0   .000   37   46

Central         W   L   T    PCT   PF   PA
Detroit         2   0   0  1.000   48   26
Green Bay       1   1   0   .500   56   41
Chicago         1   1   0   .500   36   41
Minnesota       1   1   0   .500   39   34

THIS WEEK’S GAMES
(All Times EST – Check Your Local Listings)

Saturday 2:00 PM
Green Bay (1-1) at Kansas City (0-0)

Sunday 1:00 PM
Cincinnati (0-0) at Cleveland (1-1)
Minnesota (1-1) at Detroit (2-0)
Washington (2-0) at New York (2-0)
Atlanta (0-2) at Baltimore (0-2)

Sunday 2:00 PM
New Orleans (0-1-1) at St. Louis (1-1)
Philadelphia (0-2) at Dallas (1-1)
Pittsburgh (2-0) at Chicago (1-1)

Sunday 4:00 PM
San Francisco (1-1) at Los Angeles (2-0)



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THE OFFENSIVE AND DEFENSIVE PLAYERS OF THE WEEK

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On offense, quarterback SONNY JURGENSEN had a stellar day against one of the best pass defenses in the league.  In the Redskins’ 26-20 win over the Baltimore Colts, Jurgensen was 18 of 27 for 191 yards, two touchdowns and no interceptions.  A close second was Pittsburgh’s Earl Gros, who rushed for 111 yards on 15 carries, including a 60-yard touchdown run.

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On defense, strong safety BRIG OWENS (also of the Washington Redskins) picked up top honors.  His tight coverage of Colts tight end John Mackey netted him three picks and five tackles on the day.



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NFL LEADERS

PASSING                  ATT  CMP    PCT   YDS  TD INT  RATING
Sonny Jurgensen (WAS)     44   31   70.5   428   4   0   131.6
Bill Nelsen (CLE)         48   24   50.0   373   3   0    97.0
Bill Munson (DET)         43   25   58.1   253   4   1    96.4
Dick Shiner (PIT)         40   21   52.5   280   5   2    93.8
Roman Gabriel (LA)        49   32   65.3   448   1   2    84.4
Billy Kilmer (NO)         60   31   51.7   295   3   0    82.3
John Brodie (SF)          57   33   57.9   473   3   3    80.5
Fran Tarkenton (NY)       40   21   52.5   262   2   1    79.4

RUSHING                  ATT   YDS   TD   AVG
Earl Gros (PIT)           28   198    1   7.1
Leroy Kelly (CLE)         34   189    2   5.6
Dick Hoak (PIT)           37   162    2   4.4
Bill Brown (MIN)          33   156    0   4.7
Brian Piccolo (CHI)       15   155    1  10.3
Ken Willard (SF)          37   130    1   3.5
Jim Grabowski (GB)        22   114    1   5.2
Gary R. Lewis (SF)        21   109    0   5.2

RECEIVING                REC   YDS  TD    AVG
John Mackey (BAL)         12   153   0   12.8
Dan Abramowicz (NO)        9    93   1   10.3
Clifton McNeil (SF)        9   131   1   14.6
Jackie Smith (STL)         9   128   0   14.2
Charley Taylor (WAS)       8   240   2   30.0
Pat Richter (WAS)          8    90   3   11.3
Bob Hayes (DAL)            8   116   1   14.5
Earl McCullough (DET)      7   113   2   16.1
Jerry Smith (WAS)          7   128   1   11.0
 
RED = League Leader

Interceptions - Willie A. Williams (NY) 3, Clancy Williams (LA) 3, Joe Taylor (CHI) 3, Brig Owens (WAS) 3, Herb Adderley (GB) 3

Kicking Points - Jim Bakken (STL) 21, Mike Mercer (GB) 20, Mac Percival (CHI) 18, Tommy Davis (SF) 17, Booth Lusteg (PIT) 17

Kick-Off Returns - Ronnie Blye (NY) 40.7, John Gilliam (NO) 27.3, Gale Sayers (CHI) 26.8, Charlie Leigh (CLE) 24.0, Bobby Thompson (DET) 23.3

Punt Returns - Rick Volk (BAL) 18.8, Chuck Latourette (STL) 18.6, Charlie West (MIN) 8.3, Rickie Harris (WAS) 5.2, Ed Meador (LA) 4.4

Punting - Billy Lothridge (ATL) 45.3, Bobby Joe Green (CHI) 44.4, Bobby Walden (PIT) 44.0, Sam Baker (PHI) 43.3, Jerry DePoyster (DET) 42.9

Sacks - Jim Katcavage (NY) 4, eight tied with 3



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Good one going at Kansas City Municipal Stadium, where the Packers lead a solid Chiefs team 14-6 at the half.



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The NFL stays undefeated in interleague play.  Trailing by only five points, Kansas City had three possessions in the final seven minutes.  But the Packers’ defense hung tough and stopped Len Dawson and the Chiefs each time.  No revenge for Super Bowl II on this day.

                            1   2   3   4    F
Green Bay Packers
(2-1)     7   7   7   0   21
Kansas City Chiefs (0-1)    3   3   0  10   16
   B.Starr (GB) 16/23, 244 yds, 3 TD, int
   J.Grabowski (GB) 14 rush 92 yds
   C.Dale (GB) 4 rec 98 yds
   R.Holmes (KC) 12 rush 153 yds, 68 yd TD
   L.Dawson (KC) 9/18, 86 yds, int



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