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1972 NFL Replay -- C&D Basic
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NOTE: After a loooooooonnnnnnnggggg break, we are now continuing.

There is also one added "ground rule". The games are timed by the number of actual plays by the CARDED players. Since this is C&D and with the limited original large card format set, this is probably the best way to go for me. This will also be able for me to compare the replay stats to actual stats better as the actual stats will only include the carded players' stats.





Dr. Robert, Commissioner of This Replay


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Week 1

Game #5

 

Atlanta Falcons (0-0-0) 24

Chicago Bears (0-0-0) 3

 

(Actual Score: Atlanta 37, Chicago 21)

Soldier_Field2_Chicago.jpg

 

It was over when...

Art Malone busted up the middle for 12 yards to cap an 8 play, 65 yard drive with ten seconds remaining in the game to boost the lead to 21.

 

Game Balls

Atlanta: Bob Berry was 12-15 passing for 147 yards and a TD with 2 INT.

Chicago: Jim Harrison ran for 100 yards on 15 carries.

 

Key Stat

Atlanta totally controlled the clock, running 64 plays to the Bears' 35.

 

Noteworthy

Art Malone ran for 120 yards and 1 TD on 24 carries and caught 4 passes for 58 yards.


Game Stats

                  1  2  3  4      F
Atlanta           7  0  0 17  -  24
Chicago           0  0  3  0  -   3

SCORING                                                                      ATL  CHI
   1  06:30 Falcons   J.Mitchell 17 yard pass from B.Berry (B.Bell kick)       7    0
   3  06:10 Bears     M.Percival 20 yard field goal                            7    3
   4  11:50 Falcons   B.Bell 34 yard field goal                               10    3
   4  05:20 Falcons   J.Profit 5 yard run (B.Bell kick)                       17    3
   4  00:10 Falcons   A.Malone 12 yard run (B.Bell kick)                      24    3


TEAM STATS

                               ATL             CHI
                               ---             ---
First Downs                     19               6
Rush-Yds-TD               49-229-2        26-141-0
Comp-Att-Yd-TD-Int   12-15-147-1-2      2-6-11-0-1
Sacked-Yds                     0-0            3-28
Net Pass Yds                   147             -17
Total Yds                      376             124
Fum-Lost                       4-2             0-0
Turnovers                        4               1

 

PASSING, RUSHING & RECEIVING
                              Passing                 Rushing         Receiving
                        Cmp Att Yds TD Int  Rate   Att Yds TD Lng   Rec Yds TD Lng
ATL Bob Berry            12  15 147  1   2  90.3     2   5  0   4
ATL Art Malone                                      24 120  1  18     4  58  0  15
ATL Joe Profit                                      13  65  1 14
ATL Dave Hampton                                    10  39  0  19
ATL Jim Mitchell                                                      4  45  1  17*
ATL Ken Burrow                                                        3  31  0  15
ATL Todd Snyder                                                       1  13  0  13



                              Passing                 Rushing         Receiving
                        Cmp Att Yds TD Int  Rate   Att Yds TD Lng   Rec Yds TD Lng
CHI Bobby Douglass        2   6  11  0   1   2.8     7  35  0  17
CHI Jim Harrison                                    15 100  0  19
CHI Roger Lawson                                     3   6  0   3     1  -3  0  -3
CHI Cyril Pinder                                     1   0  0   0
CHI Earl Thomas                                                       1  14  0 14

 

                             Interceptions      Kick Returns          Punt Returns
                            Int Yds TD Lng   Ret Yds Y/Rt TD Lng   Ret Yds Y/Rt TD Lng
ATL Willie Belton                              1  18 18.0  0  18     1  34 34.0  0  34
ATL Ray Brown                                                        1   2  2.0  0   2
ATL Tom Hayes                 1   8

 

                             Interceptions      Kick Returns          Punt Returns
                            Int Yds TD Lng   Ret Yds Y/Rt TD Lng   Ret Yds Y/Rt TD Lng
CHI Charlie Ford              1  25
CHI Joe Taylor                1   0
CHI Cecil Turner                               3  77 25.7  0  26


Kicking                     FGM-FGA XPM-XPA   Pnt  Yds  Y/P LNG
ATL Bill Bell                 1-1     3-3
ATL John James                                  1   33 33.0  33

CHI Bobby Joe Green                             5  216 43.2  53
CHI Mac Percival              1-2


FG Missed: Mac Percival 45.



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I see Bobby Douglass was typical Bobby Douglass...........

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nacster wrote:

I see Bobby Douglass was typical Bobby Douglass...........


 Except he only ran for 5 yards a run.



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captaincarl8 wrote:
nacster wrote:

I see Bobby Douglass was typical Bobby Douglass...........


 Except he only ran for 5 yards a run.


 I was more referring to the 2-for-6 for 11 yards with a pick.

Guys that played against him say he had one of, if not THE, strongest arm in the league back then.  He just couldn't "hit water if he fell from a boat in the ocean" to paraphrase the knock against current Jets QB Christian Hackenberg.



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nacster wrote:
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nacster wrote:

I see Bobby Douglass was typical Bobby Douglass...........


 Except he only ran for 5 yards a run.


 I was more referring to the 2-for-6 for 11 yards with a pick.

Guys that played against him say he had one of, if not THE, strongest arm in the league back then.  He just couldn't "hit water if he fell from a boat in the ocean" to paraphrase the knock against current Jets QB Christian Hackenberg.


 This little-known fact is all you need to know about Douglass' arm..........from wikipedia...........

After his NFL career was over, Douglass briefly played minor league baseball in the Chicago White Sox organization. In 1979, he pitched four games for the Iowa Oaks where he had 7 innings pitched, issued 13 walks and failed to record a strikeout.[4]



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Bobby Douglass: A Bears Quarterback Who Was One Of A Kind

Think Bears QB's have been shaky in recent years? Read about Bobby Douglass, a quarterback with a great arm who never quite learned how to make it work.



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Thanks for the added info on Douglass.

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Week 1

Game #6

 

(0-0-0) 16 at (0-0-0) 19

 

(Actual Score: Detroit 30, NY Giants 16)

Tiger Stadium

 

It was over when...

Greg Landry connected with Ron Jessie on an 11 yard pass for a first down with a minute to play to insure the win. Detroit started the drive on their 41 following the Lions grabbing an onside kick by the Giants. Altie Taylor ran 3 times for 27 yards during the drive and Greg Landry ran twice for 3 yards along with his 11 yard pass completion.

 

Game Balls

Giants: Charlie Evans gained 119 yards of offense, carrying the ball 14 times for 95 yards and catching 2 passes for 24 yards.

Lions: Altie Taylor ran for 121 yards and a TD on 14 carries and caught 6 passes for 46 yards.

 

Key Stat

Detroit controlled the clock, running 38 plays to the Giants 16, in the middle two quarters as they outscored the Giants 9-3 to take a 12-9 lead into the 4th quarter.

 

Noteworthy

Neither team turned the ball over nor were there any sacks in the game.


Game Stats

                  1  2  3  4      F
NY Giants         6  3  0  7  -  16
Detroit           3  6  3  7  -  19

SCORING                                                                      NYG  DET
   1  08:30 Giants    P.Gogolak 12 yard field goal                             3    0
   1  05:10 Lions     E.Mann 21 yard field goal                                3    3
   1  00:30 Giants    P.Gogolak 11 yard field goal                             6    3
   2  09:20 Lions     E.Mann 29 yard field goal                                6    6
   2  06:20 Giants    P.Gogolak 38 yard field goal                             9    6
   2  00:20 Lions     E.Mann 31 yard field goal                                9    9
   3  04:20 Lions     E.Mann 29 yard field goal                                9   12
   4  12:15 Lions     A.Taylor 3 yard run (E.Mann kick)                        9   19
   4  04:00 Giants    D.Herrmann 9 yard pass from N.Snead (P.Gogolak kick)    16   19


TEAM STATS

                               NYG             DET
                               ---             ---
First Downs                     16              19
Rush-Yds-TD               26-168-0        38-203-1
Comp-Att-Yd-TD-Int   12-25-131-1-0   16-19-141-0-0
Sacked-Yds                     0-0             0-0
Net Pass Yds                   131             141
Total Yds                      299             344
Fum-Lost                       2-0             1-0
Turnovers                        0               0

 

PASSING, RUSHING & RECEIVING
                              Passing                 Rushing         Receiving
                        Cmp Att Yds TD Int  Rate   Att Yds TD Lng   Rec Yds TD Lng
NYG Norm Snead           12  25 131  1   0  77.1
NYG Charlie Evans                                   14  95  0  30     2  24  0  17
NYG Ron Johnson                                     12  73  0  22     1  11  0  11
NYG Bob Tucker                                                        5  61  0  16
NYG Don Herrmann                                                      4  35  1  12



                              Passing                 Rushing         Receiving
                        Cmp Att Yds TD Int  Rate   Att Yds TD Lng   Rec Yds TD Lng
DET Greg Landry          16  19 141  0   0  97.5     4  18  0   9
DET Steve Owens                                     20  64  0  17
DET Altie Taylor                                    14 121  1  38     6  46  0  19
DET Ron Jessie                                                        8  83  0  19
DET Craig Cotton                                                      2  12  0   9

 

                             Interceptions      Kick Returns          Punt Returns
                            Int Yds TD Lng   Ret Yds Y/Rt TD Lng   Ret Yds Y/Rt TD Lng
NYG Bob Grim                                                         1   1  1.0  0   1
NYG Joe Orduna                                 5  95 19.0  0  21
NYG Rocky Thompson                             1  35 35.0  0  35

 

                             Interceptions      Kick Returns          Punt Returns
                            Int Yds TD Lng   Ret Yds Y/Rt TD Lng   Ret Yds Y/Rt TD Lng
DET Lem Barney                                                       1   8  8.0  0   8
DET Mickey Zofko                               3  68 22.7  0  26


Kicking                     FGM-FGA XPM-XPA   Pnt  Yds  Y/P LNG
NYG Tom Blanchard                               2   87 43.5  45
NYG Pete Gogolak              3-5     1-1

DET Errol Mann                4-4     1-1
DET Herman Weaver                               2   73 36.5  40


FG Missed: Pete Gogolak 49,43.



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Two super short FG's meant the Giants had trouble punching it in from close. Snead had an uncharacteristic off day (although in real life, when the Giants traded for him, it was not a terribly popular move).

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Great pic! I always like seeing how the teams tried to squeeze football fields into baseball stadiums.

The boxscore highlights a couple trades I didn't understand. First, the Giants trading Tarkenton. Second, the Browns trading Ron Johnson for Homer Jones. I remember being impressed by Johnson as a rookie, and Jones hardly did anything for the Browns. Maybe Jones got injured. Hindsight is always 20-20, I guess.

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boomer wrote:

Great pic! I always like seeing how the teams tried to squeeze football fields into baseball stadiums.

The boxscore highlights a couple trades I didn't understand. First, the Giants trading Tarkenton. Second, the Browns trading Ron Johnson for Homer Jones. I remember being impressed by Johnson as a rookie, and Jones hardly did anything for the Browns. Maybe Jones got injured. Hindsight is always 20-20, I guess.


Tark was coming off a pretty bad season in 1971.  The Vikings did great in the trade when they gave away Tarkenton (they got four picks which turned out to be Clint Jones, Bob Grim, Ron Yary, and Ed White).

Tark walked out of training camp prior to the '71 season, and coupled with his bad year, it left a bad taste in the team's mouth.

The Giants....being the Giants back then..........traded Tark back to the Vikings and only got Norm Snead (who after a great '72 season was done, probably because he was the same age as Tark), Bob Grim, and Vince Clements (who ended up getting hurt), and draft picks that turned out to be Larry Jacobsen in the 1st round (total bust) and Brad Van Pelt who ended up being very good.  

Overall, the Vikings got MUCH MUCH MUCH the better of those two trades which got them to three Super Bowls.  The Giants didn't become at all relevant until the 80's.



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boomer wrote:

Great pic! I always like seeing how the teams tried to squeeze football fields into baseball stadiums.

The boxscore highlights a couple trades I didn't understand. First, the Giants trading Tarkenton. Second, the Browns trading Ron Johnson for Homer Jones. I remember being impressed by Johnson as a rookie, and Jones hardly did anything for the Browns. Maybe Jones got injured. Hindsight is always 20-20, I guess.


 As far as the Johnson/Jones deal.......Johnson had a long holdout after being drafted #1 by the Browns in 1969.  He had a middling rookie season, and was traded in a 3-way deal.  The Giants gave up Homer Jones to the Browns for Johnson, JIm Kanicki, and Wayne Meylan.  The Browns traded Paul Warfield to the Dolphins for their 1st round draft pick who ended up being Mike Phipps (drafted overall #3).

Jones ended up getting hurt after his big Opening Night splash.........if you remember, on the very first Monday Night Football game ever played between the Browns and Jets, he ran back the opening kickoff for a TD.  Warfield of course became an all-time great.  Johnson twice ran for 1,000 yards; in fact he was the only Giants runner to do that between 1964 and 1980.

Ron Johnson's brother also had a pretty fair 1970 season.  Alex Johnson won the 1970 batting title with the California Angels.

Homer Jones BTW was credited with inventing the "spike".



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nacster wrote:
boomer wrote:

Great pic! I always like seeing how the teams tried to squeeze football fields into baseball stadiums.

The boxscore highlights a couple trades I didn't understand. First, the Giants trading Tarkenton. Second, the Browns trading Ron Johnson for Homer Jones. I remember being impressed by Johnson as a rookie, and Jones hardly did anything for the Browns. Maybe Jones got injured. Hindsight is always 20-20, I guess.


 As far as the Johnson/Jones deal.......Johnson had a long holdout after being drafted #1 by the Browns in 1969.  He had a middling rookie season, and was traded in a 3-way deal.  The Giants gave up Homer Jones to the Browns for Johnson, JIm Kanicki, and Wayne Meylan.  The Browns traded Paul Warfield to the Dolphins for their 1st round draft pick who ended up being Mike Phipps (drafted overall #3).

Jones ended up getting hurt after his big Opening Night splash.........if you remember, on the very first Monday Night Football game ever played between the Browns and Jets, he ran back the opening kickoff for a TD.  Warfield of course became an all-time great.  Johnson twice ran for 1,000 yards; in fact he was the only Giants runner to do that between 1964 and 1980.

Ron Johnson's brother also had a pretty fair 1970 season.  Alex Johnson won the 1970 batting title with the California Angels.

Homer Jones BTW was credited with inventing the "spike".


 Johnson's knee injury in 1971 didn't do the Giants any favors either besides the off year by Sir Francis.

His brother Alex won the batting title by .0003 over Carl Yastrzemski.

Phipps ended up leading the Browns to the playoffs in '72, losing to the Dolphins in the first round.



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The Browns ultimately didn't need Johnson, as Greg Pruitt came along in time to replace Leroy Kelly. But the loss of Paul Warfield is a different matter. Did they really need a higher pick to get someone as good as Phipps? I guess hindsight is always 20/20.

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