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Best All time teams from each franchise full replay
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This is a childhood dream of mine. I haven't played Strat-O-Matic baseball in 25+ years. I loved the stats and game play. I always dreamed of playing the best team from each franchise in a full 162 game replay. I love tracking the stats and records and whatnot. At 38 I'm finally able to achieve this dream(albeit a lack of free time will hamper me). 

 

Has as anyone done this?

 

Can anyone help me, these are the teams I need:

1912 Boston Red Sox

1939 New York Yankees

1935 Detroit Tigers

1917 Chicago White Sox

1933 Washington Senators

2011 Texas Rangers

2001 Seattle Mariners

1998 Houston Astros

2002 Los Angeles Angels

1994 Montreal Expos

1986 New York Mets

2003 Florida Marlins

2011 Philadelphia Phillies

1998 Atlanta Braves

1942 St Louis Cardinals

1982 Milwaukee Brewers

1976 Concinnati Reds

2007 Colorado Rockies

1998 San Diego Padres

I already Have:

1970 Baltimore Orioles

1911 Philadelphia Athletics

2015 Toronto Blue Jays

2012 Tampa Bay Rays

1954 Cleveland Indians

1977 Kansas City Royals

1906 Chicago Cubs

1909 Pittsburgh Pirates

1953 Brooklyn Dodgers

1905 New York Giants

2002 Arizona Diamondbacks

 

i would love to hear peoples thoughts on this. I expect this to be super fun to do. 



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Welcome to SOMers!

Many folks have something similiar and had a blast doing it. Depending on you style of play (basic, advanced, or super advanced) could drive a modification to the team you chose for the franchise. Many of those teams you desire are no longer available from the company. The secondary market would be you only option. Many you have listed will come at premium because they are highly sought after. ebay can be an adventure trying to get these teams. Chris Rosen is a reputable secondary market guy. moonlightgraham@moonlightgrahamsmarketplace.com

If you chose to do this via the computer you could get all those teams buy buying the season roster. It would be quite a bit starting from scratch.

Ask all the questions you want. You won't be ridiculed here.



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I already picked up 11 teams from various places(mostly Ebay and SOM website). I have my saved searches on eBay. I'm pretty sure 11 teams will keep me busy while I seek out the rest.

Can anyone help on which teams don't exist in card format?? I gather the 1912 Red Sox, 1939 Yankees don't come in card format, but I would like to know the rest so I don't waste time looking. I haven't found a detailed list of what exists out there(i.e. what has been released), but I am also new to searching for this. The last time I played was pre-internet.

I'm just going to play a basic game, "in a perfect world". I love numbers compiling, comparing, etc. I already have everything laid out rotations, lineups, schedules, etc......2430 games......its gonna be a long time!

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You're right. The 1912 Red Sox and 1939 Yankees have never been carded.

Nor have the 1917 Red Sox, 1935 Tigers, or 1942 Cardinals.

SOM does have the 1934 Tigers, if you want to sub them out for the '35's on your list.  There are also a few other variations that might provide good enough results for you that SOM has available through their website.

If you went with the 1924 Senators instead of the '33 club, it would give you the chance to have a pretty good Walter Johnson card in play.

Likewise, the '34 Cardinals would give you Dizzy and Paul Dean (though you wouldn't have Stan the Man).

You might try either the 1919 (Basic only) or 1920 White Sox, to replace the '17 crew.

And, obviously, there are plenty of Yankees teams to choose from, including the '27 Murders Row squad, '41, and '61, all in Super Advanced format.

Good luck!



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American League
East
Boston Red Sox (1912, 1915, 2004)
New York Yankees (1939, 1927, 1998)

Central
Detroit Tigers (1935, 1984, 1968)
Chicago White Sox (1917, 1954, 1906)
Minnesota Twins 1933, 1925, 1931)(Washington Senators)

West
Texas Rangers (2011, 2012, 2010)
Seattle Mariners (2001, 2002, 2003)
Houston Astros (1998, 1999, 2004)
Los Angeles Angels (2002, 2009, 2014)(Anaheim Angels)

National League
East
M. Expos(1/3)/W. Nat’ls(2) (1994, 2014, 1980)
New York Mets (1986, 1988, 1987)
Florida Marlins (2003, 1997, 2004)(Miami Marlins)
Philadelphia Phillies (2011, 1977, 2010)
Atlanta Braves (1998, 1993, 1999)

Central
St. Louis Cardinals (1942, 1944, 1943)
Milwaukee Brewers (1982, 1992, 1980)
Cincinnati Reds (1976, 1975, 1919)

West
Colorado Rockies (2007, 2009, 2010)
San Diego Padres (1998, 1984, 2007)


In parentheses are ranked the #1, 2 and 3 teams from the franchise. I say ranked as I found a website that ranked every team that ever played in a list 2400+ teams long. It APPEARS they were very thorough, so I kinda just went with it. The newer teams I expect I will find at fairly acceptable prices if I hold out and pick up one or two here and there. I also saw somewhere online formula for creating your own cards for the missing teams. Does anyone know anything about that? I saw mention but have had no luck finding said formula.



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Welcome to the site! Looks like a good project, but where are the Pirate teams?confuse



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I have the 1909 Pittsburgh Pirates

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Onemarleyfan wrote:

I have the 1909 Pittsburgh Pirates


 No 1927, 1960, 1971, or 1979, huh?

Still looks like a great project



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fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-best-mlb-teams-of-all-time-according-to-elo/

This is the site I went from. I'm sure this sort of thing is open to interpretation. I haven't paid any attention to baseball since probably the early 90's. In that time the stats appears to have changed quite a bit. My understanding of an ELO rating is that it isn't necessarily 100% objective but that values are set to certain stats and calculated from there. So......wanting to get moving I just chose a site and went with it. It's going to be a lot of games.....I'm only 1/1200 done right now😂

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Onemarleyfan wrote:

fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-best-mlb-teams-of-all-time-according-to-elo/

This is the site I went from. I'm sure this sort of thing is open to interpretation. I haven't paid any attention to baseball since probably the early 90's. In that time the stats appears to have changed quite a bit. My understanding of an ELO rating is that it isn't necessarily 100% objective but that values are set to certain stats and calculated from there. So......wanting to get moving I just chose a site and went with it. It's going to be a lot of games.....I'm only 1/1200 done right now😂


 The site listed is its own separate argument. biggrin

The 1939 Yankees are not carded in deluxe format, so to say they are better than the 1927 Yankees in Strat remains unanswered, but they have taken down every challenger in a project I have about them on this forum.

http://www.somers.activeboard.com/t39948896/1927-yankees-the-greatest-caddy-ever-proof-project/



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I may just have to go there, I'll probably start taking their second best listing if I cannot find the first or don't want to take the time to turn formulas into cards for the missing teams.

I'm just trying to have a little fun with something I haven't played for almost 3 decades. First 7 games I had fun playing. Reminded me of that childhood glee that adulthood lacks unless you seek it out. Played 4 games of 1905 Giants @2002 D'backs(love these years of Johnson/Schilling), and 3 of '54 Indians @2002 D'backs. I had to walk away for a couple hours to handle some stuff with the bases loaded and no outs......all I could think of is getting back to my game. Lol

Do you believe you are playing the '27 Yankees opponents properly? I'm sure the answer is yes, but have you adjusted your style of play with the opponents.

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I just try to beat NY any way I can. The style can depend on the team. It was all done via computer with manager settings. The volume of games would never get done playing them manually. Each matchup is 4,860 games.

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Yeah I thanks lol

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I don't 100% know, but I would bet there is a difference between dice rolling and the computer. Not necessarily the randomness of but the manager impact. I haven't played the computer game so I do know nothing about it. I would think if you just let it run its own course it would be different than playing the individual game. Really just meaning that you could make even more aggressive choices in every instance.

Again I may just have a complete lack of understanding of how the computer game works.

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Onemarleyfan wrote:

I don't 100% know, but I would bet there is a difference between dice rolling and the computer. Not necessarily the randomness of but the manager impact. I haven't played the computer game so I do know nothing about it. I would think if you just let it run its own course it would be different than playing the individual game. Really just meaning that you could make even more aggressive choices in every instance.

Again I may just have a complete lack of understanding of how the computer game works.


 My reason to talk about my project was to show you how some of the great teams stack up. It's a Strat look at teams vs the site you mentione. In your style of project the 27 Yankees won't necessarily win. 



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