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Bucs' Marte suspended 80 games for PED use
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Pittsburgh Pirates' outfielder Starling Marte has been suspended 80 games for PED use.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2704394-starling-marte-suspended-80-games-for-violating-mlb-ped-policy

In a statement, Marte blamed his positive test on "neglect and lack of knowledge."

Marte's suspension begins immediately, and he will not be eligible to play if the Pirates advance to the postseason.



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Ouch!

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What else does MLB have to do, to make players understand?

Since he'd be ineligible, I'd also look into denying him any share of postseason money they might make.



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I'm sorry....but the "lack of knowledge" excuse is old and lame. I'm a fat old man and I can tell you everything I've stuffed into my body over the last week.....yet these guys don't know what is in the supplements they take. It's a joke now.

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I'm sorry....but the "lack of knowledge" excuse is old and lame. I'm a fat old man and I can tell you everything I've stuffed into my body over the last week.....yet these guys don't know what is in the supplements they take. It's a joke now.


Agreed 100%. 



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seajaw wrote:
nacster wrote:

I'm sorry....but the "lack of knowledge" excuse is old and lame. I'm a fat old man and I can tell you everything I've stuffed into my body over the last week.....yet these guys don't know what is in the supplements they take. It's a joke now.


Agreed 100%. 


 You know I'm a Pirates fan, but I agree 100%



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Is the suspension with pay?

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Is the suspension with pay?


Without:

Positive steroid test results[edit]

  • First positive test result: 80 game suspension [2]
  • Second positive test result: 162 game suspension (the entire season, including the postseason)
  • Third positive test result: lifetime ban from MLB
  • Players who test positive for either their first or second tests are given the option to appeal, in which scientific tests will be conducted to prove validity of test. Within that period of time, they are restricted from participation in all baseball activity. If an appeal is granted, the suspension may be reduced by 40 games for the first offense or 80 games for the second offense. There is no appeal for a third offense. All suspensions are without pay. In addition, a suspended player can be replaced on the active roster by another player. If a player is on the disabled list, the suspension is served while on the disabled list. Unless a suspension is reduced on appeal, a suspended player is not allowed to participate in that year's post-season even if his suspension ends before then.
  • Players who receive a lifetime ban after a third positive test may apply for reinstatement after one year and be eligible to be reinstated after two years. Jenrry Mejía became the only player to be permanently banned under the drug policy on February 12, 2016.[3]

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major_League_Baseball_drug_policy



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nacster wrote:

I'm sorry....but the "lack of knowledge" excuse is old and lame. I'm a fat old man and I can tell you everything I've stuffed into my body over the last week.....yet these guys don't know what is in the supplements they take. It's a joke now.


 A more truthful response would have been "oops, that test caught me off guard." I think there are more guys out there using PEDs but are just better at not getting caught.



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nacster wrote:

I'm sorry....but the "lack of knowledge" excuse is old and lame. I'm a fat old man and I can tell you everything I've stuffed into my body over the last week.....yet these guys don't know what is in the supplements they take. It's a joke now.


 A more truthful response would have been "oops, that test caught me off guard." I think there are more guys out there using PEDs but are just better at not getting caught.


 Just once I would like to see something like a guy coming up to the podium WITHOUT a hand-written piece of paper (from his agent most likely) and say...........

"I want to apologize to the organization, my teammates and coaches, my family, and the fans.  I did something that I knew was against the rules and integrity of the game.  I did not take a PED to help accentuate my performance, rather I took it to help me recover from not only a minor injury, but to help me with the daily rigors of the game, much like someone would take Advil or Aleve for minor aches and pains.  I don't condone my actions, but I want to be honest with everyone involved as to my regrettable decision.  I will honor and accept any punishment Major League Baseball hands down to me, and I promise to try to make better decisions regarding this issue in the future."

Simple............Easy................

Yeah right, the Players Union would have a field day with that guy..........

 



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nacster wrote:

I'm sorry....but the "lack of knowledge" excuse is old and lame. I'm a fat old man and I can tell you everything I've stuffed into my body over the last week.....yet these guys don't know what is in the supplements they take. It's a joke now.


 A more truthful response would have been "oops, that test caught me off guard." I think there are more guys out there using PEDs but are just better at not getting caught.


 Just once I would like to see something like a guy coming up to the podium WITHOUT a hand-written piece of paper (from his agent most likely) and say...........

"I want to apologize to the organization, my teammates and coaches, my family, and the fans.  I did something that I knew was against the rules and integrity of the game.  I did not take a PED to help accentuate my performance, rather I took it to help me recover from not only a minor injury, but to help me with the daily rigors of the game, much like someone would take Advil or Aleve for minor aches and pains.  I don't condone my actions, but I want to be honest with everyone involved as to my regrettable decision.  I will honor and accept any punishment Major League Baseball hands down to me, and I promise to try to make better decisions regarding this issue in the future."

Simple............Easy................

Yeah right, the Players Union would have a field day with that guy..........

 


Add the line, "Too many other players I compete against on a daily basis are using these same drugs, making it more and more difficult to maintain my value in the game."



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seajaw wrote:
nacster wrote:
NatsFan wrote:
nacster wrote:

I'm sorry....but the "lack of knowledge" excuse is old and lame. I'm a fat old man and I can tell you everything I've stuffed into my body over the last week.....yet these guys don't know what is in the supplements they take. It's a joke now.


 A more truthful response would have been "oops, that test caught me off guard." I think there are more guys out there using PEDs but are just better at not getting caught.


 Just once I would like to see something like a guy coming up to the podium WITHOUT a hand-written piece of paper (from his agent most likely) and say...........

"I want to apologize to the organization, my teammates and coaches, my family, and the fans.  I did something that I knew was against the rules and integrity of the game.  I did not take a PED to help accentuate my performance, rather I took it to help me recover from not only a minor injury, but to help me with the daily rigors of the game, much like someone would take Advil or Aleve for minor aches and pains.  I don't condone my actions, but I want to be honest with everyone involved as to my regrettable decision.  I will honor and accept any punishment Major League Baseball hands down to me, and I promise to try to make better decisions regarding this issue in the future."

Simple............Easy................

Yeah right, the Players Union would have a field day with that guy..........

 


Add the line, "Too many other players I compete against on a daily basis are using these same drugs, making it more and more difficult to maintain my value in the game."


 Ha......the original player would DEFINITELY get black-balled.......



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What else does MLB have to do, to make players understand?

Since he'd be ineligible, I'd also look into denying him any share of postseason money they might make.


How about making the guilty player pay back some of their contract money that they've already been paid to further offset the costs of potential lost revenues to the team(assuming the team is not somehow involved)? I would imagine the Marte merchandise is heading to the discount section as we speak. 

Making these guys pay back money that they already have gotten would send a bigger message than basically putting them on unpaid leave.



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nacster wrote:
seajaw wrote:
nacster wrote:
NatsFan wrote:
nacster wrote:

I'm sorry....but the "lack of knowledge" excuse is old and lame. I'm a fat old man and I can tell you everything I've stuffed into my body over the last week.....yet these guys don't know what is in the supplements they take. It's a joke now.


 A more truthful response would have been "oops, that test caught me off guard." I think there are more guys out there using PEDs but are just better at not getting caught.


 Just once I would like to see something like a guy coming up to the podium WITHOUT a hand-written piece of paper (from his agent most likely) and say...........

"I want to apologize to the organization, my teammates and coaches, my family, and the fans.  I did something that I knew was against the rules and integrity of the game.  I did not take a PED to help accentuate my performance, rather I took it to help me recover from not only a minor injury, but to help me with the daily rigors of the game, much like someone would take Advil or Aleve for minor aches and pains.  I don't condone my actions, but I want to be honest with everyone involved as to my regrettable decision.  I will honor and accept any punishment Major League Baseball hands down to me, and I promise to try to make better decisions regarding this issue in the future."

Simple............Easy................

Yeah right, the Players Union would have a field day with that guy..........

 


Add the line, "Too many other players I compete against on a daily basis are using these same drugs, making it more and more difficult to maintain my value in the game."


 Ha......the original player would DEFINITELY get black-balled.......


Rather, each guy who gets caught is forced to take the fall for everyone else.

Would you file that under "taking one for the team"? hmm



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